Ensign Sebetharen Adryan
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Post by Ensign Sebetharen Adryan on Mar 8, 2016 13:36:38 GMT -5
For obvious reasons I didn't add this to the character theme songs, but this would be Tib's theme when he goes on leave on Risa. (NSFW.. even though they are just pixels.)
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Post by Ensign Zem Sieloh on Mar 8, 2016 23:47:43 GMT -5
This is for Tibs because of the RP tonight. <3 Attachments:
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Post by DGM Soft Kitty on Mar 9, 2016 7:44:24 GMT -5
Hehe In keeping with Zem's theme!
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Post by Lt Cmdr Tiberius Asada on Mar 9, 2016 11:30:00 GMT -5
It's just a vibrating banana penetrating deeply into the nebula... What's dirty about this?
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Post by Lt Cmdr Tiberius Asada on Mar 15, 2016 8:24:09 GMT -5
This was too big for the shoutbox so I'll place it here.
Sovek's question was if Tib committed manslaughter.
It would probably not be murder because murder requires an intent to kill someone. However, if the Federation has a felony murder rule, that might be different. The felony murder rule says that if you kill someone unintentionally during a felony, it will be considered as if you had murdered them. If non-consensual mind melds are a felony, which I'm not sure if they are, this might apply! However the felony murder rule is widely criticized in 2016 and would probably be phased out by 2420.
So the next question is whether it was manslaughter. In the real world, every state has different rules regarding criminal law but in the abstract, there are two flavors of manslaughter: voluntary and involuntary. If you kill someone without the intent to do so while in the heat of passion, that's voluntary manslaughter. Involuntary manslaughter occurs when you kill someone without intent. The most common sub-type of involuntary manslaughter is criminally negligent homicide... to be guilty of that, you must have acted with extreme recklessness or indifference to human life. I don't think that applies here. Another type of involuntary manslaughter occurs when you kill someone accidentally in the course of an illegal act not rising to the level of a felony... such as a DUI. That might apply.
However there's the issue of causality. Sure, Tib caused the man's death by initiating a mind-meld, but you could argue that his mental conditioning to die at the first sign of telepathic probing was a superseding cause and the Administrator is actually in fact guilty. A superseding cause is by definition something entirely unforeseeable... for example, let's say you hit someone with your car and you were in the wrong. If the doctor at the hospital is secretly a serial killer and kills the man you hit, you would not be responsible for his death because nobody could foresee the doctor being insane. (Unless her name is Dr. Stephanie Rendino.)
So, I think that the charge is most likely involuntary manslaughter but Tib would be found not guilty because, while he was the direct cause of the man's death, he was not the proximate cause. But just like OJ we all know he did that shit.
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Post by DGM Soft Kitty on Mar 15, 2016 8:48:25 GMT -5
hehe an excerpt from Tibs' later court martial about the death of the prisoner...
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Post by Lt Cmdr Tiberius Asada on Mar 15, 2016 9:10:44 GMT -5
If the dark mother lives on Chimera, you must acquit. The defense rests.
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Post by Lt Cmdr Jonathan Cameron on Mar 15, 2016 10:06:34 GMT -5
hehe an excerpt from Tibs' later court martial about the death of the prisoner... dying Tibs I would pay you to use this in a courtroom
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Post by Lt Cmdr Billie Jo Spencer MD on Mar 15, 2016 11:23:32 GMT -5
Also don't forget Shantal went to great pains to dispose of the body for you Tibs. The prisoner's body was likely vaporized by the mine. Don't forget to thank her.
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Post by Lieutenant jg Sovek on Mar 15, 2016 12:24:02 GMT -5
Wow, I was not actually expecting an in depth response! This is fantastic, Tibbers!
You're like our Matt Murdock!
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Ensign Sebetharen Adryan
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Delta Operations Team Leader
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Posts: 1,233
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Post by Ensign Sebetharen Adryan on Mar 15, 2016 12:33:07 GMT -5
Disposing of the corpse in such a way is a crime in and of itself, making the less-likely manslaughter charge a bit more serious... Tibs do not give 15 minute response to that. Just smile and nod.
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Post by Ensign Zem Sieloh on Mar 15, 2016 12:44:43 GMT -5
Tibs is such a lawyer. such a lawyer-y response. I've played battle star galactica w/ a lawyer before.. Always full of flowery words but in the end... They are the cylon! <3
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Ensign Sebetharen Adryan
Unassigned Officers
Delta Operations Team Leader
Application of skill determines worth, and karma.
Posts: 1,233
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Post by Ensign Sebetharen Adryan on Mar 15, 2016 13:09:40 GMT -5
Pretty much all cylon chicks are hot so no complains there.
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Post by Lt Cmdr Tiberius Asada on Mar 15, 2016 13:30:53 GMT -5
Disposing of the corpse in such a way is a crime in and of itself, making the less-likely manslaughter charge a bit more serious... Tibs do not give 15 minute response to that. Just smile and nod. Doing something weird with the body would probably only come into play during the sentencing phase. After the accused is found guilty, the court still needs to determine the punishment. Aggravating factors like cruelty or mutilating the body might make the sentence worse, or there might be mitigating factors that could reduce the sentence. Tib didn't mess with the body, he just left it in the brig. Presumably it's no longer in one piece but that's not Tibs fault, it's jons.
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Post by Lt Cmdr Jonathan Cameron on Mar 15, 2016 13:44:45 GMT -5
It's Jon's fault the ship was sneak attacked and crashed into the moon?
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