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Post by Captain Anja Malitzka on Sept 6, 2016 1:24:41 GMT -5
Since I guess the original thread talking about it was before it had a name and it's almost a year old, new thread about the upcoming Star Trek: Discovery show by CBS. Article with a bunch of information I was linked today: screencrush.com/star-trek-discovery-female-captain-cast-details/The big things that stood out to me were that it's going to be set 10 years before ToS, will be heavily serialized, and is supposed to be based around a referenced even that is never seen. Apparently it will feature a female lead who is not the Captain. Most annoyingly, apparently CBS All Access will have 12 minutes of ads per episode, so clearly CBS doesn't understand how a pay service is supposed to work.
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Post by Ensign Lindsey Wellington on Sept 6, 2016 1:57:31 GMT -5
Okay, that got me interested. I already were, but this sounds like a new taste on the franchise.
"Despite initial reports, the show will have a female lead, who isn’t necessarily the Captain, but rather a Lieutenant-Commander."
- The Link says they said "They want to do it differently and it should not be centered around the captain." It was my impression that in all the other Star Trek Series there was never one anchor. Many episode centered around different characters on the Ship/Station. I hope they keep doing that, as i realy loved to see what the 'others' are doing and how they feel and stuff.
"And “re-imagining of existing aliens” aliens!"
- Why? I hope they only do some tech advancement. Yeah TOS was and still is cool, because of that classic charme. But again a different look on already known species? Will Vulcans get pink?
“Absolutely we’re having a gay character,”
- Yay. I realy like that they also do that, but please...please don't center to much on it. I do not think in Star Trek we will need that. I would rather like to see that they are as normal as everyone else. There is no need for any special kind of gay type. Thats the future. They would not have todays problematics. Everything should be normal for them. And they should be looked upon as any other person, too. I do not want to see that shy gay type that is scared to speak about it as if they would be judged for that. In Star Trek on that time the whole planet works together, we already do not have any currency as money and also these kind of problems should already be solved. I also do not think that this person would try to provoke homophobious comments from other crewmates or something like that. Star Trek has a chance there: 'Give a look on the topic of a human society that already has worked out any problems with that!'
"Fuller is open to exploring known characters pre-Enterprise, but wants to focus on the main cast first."
- I hope they do that. I want to know more about that time. TOS mostly only centered around that one ship. I want to see more of the federation and how it worked back then.
"The overall quality"
- I realy hope they work on that. I do not want to see a poor founded and produced new enterprise show (The style they had with the little teaser). It should kick ass, as it also has to attract new viewers and fans, so the franchise gets a bump!
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Post by Ensign Sebetharen Adryan on Sept 6, 2016 3:59:10 GMT -5
Will not be viewing on cbsaa. But i'm sure there will be plenty boot legged about the internet.
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Post by Kossuth on Sept 6, 2016 7:13:52 GMT -5
I look forward to torrenting it.
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Post by Captain Joyaus Dalun on Sept 6, 2016 20:24:32 GMT -5
I wonder if they'll be borrowing the Reboot Film's version of the Early Starfleet Aesthetic. The stuff with George kirk and everything. Those uniforms seemed interesitng enough and they were technically part of the prime timeline as they predated the Narada's arrival so...
Looked it up, they look kinda like a weird mix of TOS and Season 1 TNG with the black piping etc.
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Post by Ensign Lindsey Wellington on Sept 7, 2016 2:25:04 GMT -5
mhm... would even like it if they would have made a series about that ship where kirks dad was on. Without the appearance of the Narada of course. I do not know if there is already a canon story to it. If so, please point me to it. I would love to read that one
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Post by DGM Soft Kitty on Sept 7, 2016 15:12:12 GMT -5
-sighs- is it so hard to just I dunno make a show about going forward? We did the 'past bit' with ENT and along with the reboot movies...nostalgia ...
I love TOS, its my 2nd fav series...but even with my issues with VOY it took the franchise further and forward into the future...Star Trek until ENT was always about pushing the boundaries of exploration. ENT made SO many canon mistakes trying to bridge the gap between ENT and TOS it became embarrassing at times. I can understand the need for writers and directors to want to add their own touch to such a creative and imaginative franchise but re-imagining existing races...god...just set it after VOY TNG style and you can create new races!
I will not be paying to see this, and I am hoping its good...I am...but i can't help feel they are leaning far too much on the nostalgia factor just to make buck on the franchise...which ironically for me is beginning to seem like beating on a dead horse.
For me Star Trek has always been about what we can do by moving ahead and making a better future by working together. BY moving forward...
Not by going backwards and trying to rewrite things to fit modern views...
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Post by Lt Cmdr Tiberius Asada on Sept 7, 2016 16:09:11 GMT -5
ENT made SO many canon mistakes trying to bridge the gap between ENT and TOS it became embarrassing at times. What if the Temporal Cold War never happened in the TOS/TNG/VOY/DS9 timeline, and the TCW influence actually created a distinctly different timeline?
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Post by Captain Erys Murai on Sept 7, 2016 16:21:18 GMT -5
Technically, it did happen, it's just that the efforts of Enterprise basically erased the effects of it by the time the series was over (just like the missions in STO). For that ship (and the viewers), all the events happened. For the rest of the galaxy, everything was "normal" as referenced in later seasons. In that way, it's different from, and yet doesn't contradict the rest of canon.
As for the new series, I'm not really looking forward to it. The suits at CBS are apparently just as bad as "old Roddenberry" was in the first season of TNG, except he at least tried to keep things moving forward. Rehashing old time periods, old rejected ship designs, and old issues that have already been dealt with multiple times is just lazy on their part.
I kinda wish they'd bring in some of the old guys like Okuda, Drexler, Sternbach, and Fontana to keep things on track.
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Post by Lt Cmdr Tiberius Asada on Sept 7, 2016 16:43:25 GMT -5
Technically, it did happen, it's just that the efforts of Enterprise basically erased the effects of it by the time the series was over (just like the missions in STO). For that ship (and the viewers), all the events happened. For the rest of the galaxy, everything was "normal" as referenced in later seasons. In that way, it's different from, and yet doesn't contradict the rest of canon. How do you know? ENT was the last series from a production perspective. The events in ENT are not referenced at all in TOS and later series. In fact, the NX class Enterprise is never mentioned in any listing of ships named "Enterprise." I think there is circumstantial evidence that ENT never happened as far as TOS is concerned. In TOS: "The Naked Time", Spock seems surprised that they can travel back in time. If the TCW happened, certainly Starfleet would already be aware of this. Also, if they knew that time travel was possible, they probably would have developed a temporal prime directive... Which they didn't until much later.
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Post by Ensign Lindsey Wellington on Sept 7, 2016 16:56:21 GMT -5
I also have heard some weeks ago that ships and timeperiod is about to change with seasons. Its like telling one story in the first season and another in the next, but i am not to sure as i do not have any valid sources for that information.
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Post by Captain T'Pang on Sept 7, 2016 17:55:19 GMT -5
I also have heard some weeks ago that ships and timeperiod is about to change with seasons. Its like telling one story in the first season and another in the next, but i am not to sure as i do not have any valid sources for that information. I have heard that the show will use Muppets for alien characters, much like the Dark Crystal movie. But, I can't be sure as I have no valid sources.
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Post by Ensign Lindsey Wellington on Sept 7, 2016 18:02:05 GMT -5
xD well its a rumor thread. So...thats what i heard deal with it.
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Post by Lt Cmdr Jonathan Cameron on Sept 7, 2016 18:10:58 GMT -5
I also have heard some weeks ago that ships and timeperiod is about to change with seasons. Its like telling one story in the first season and another in the next, but i am not to sure as i do not have any valid sources for that information. ala True Detective
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Post by Captain T'Pang on Sept 7, 2016 18:14:11 GMT -5
xD well its a rumor thread. So...thats what i heard deal with it. I suspect your rumor is more probable than mine
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